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Each week we bring you, the small business owner, independent operator and entrepreneur, contentto help you work ON your business, not just IN your business.
Each week we bring you, the small business owner, independent operator and entrepreneur, contentto help you work ON your business, not just IN your business.
Episodes

Thursday Nov 20, 2025
Thursday Nov 20, 2025
The Smart Way to Integrate Legal, Tax & Business Planning
with Chris Papin
Most small business owners think their LLC protects them. Spoiler alert — it probably doesn’t.
In this episode of Marc Haine Live, we’re tackling one of the most expensive mistakes entrepreneurs make: running their business with their legal, tax, and financial advisors working in silos. When your CPA, attorney, and financial planner don’t talk to each other, you pay the price — in taxes, lawsuits, and sleepless nights.
Need to brainstorm aspects of your business? Book your complimentary 30-minute brainstorm with Marc. Schedule a time that works for you at https://meetwith.marchaine.com
🔗 BONUS:
Chris is offering a free 30-minute Business & Family Protection Assessment at www.PapinSpeaks.com.
About Chris
Christopher C. Papin is a licensed Attorney and Certified Public Accountant who specializes in helping small business owners protect and grow their wealth through integrated legal, tax, and business planning. As the founder of Papin Law PLLC and Papin CPA PLLC in Edmond, Oklahoma, Chris offers the rare advantage of both legal and accounting expertise under one roof.
Connect with Chris
www.papinlaw.com
www.papincpa.com
www.papinspeaks.com
/ chrispapin
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Monday Nov 17, 2025
Monday Nov 17, 2025
Can you be the Exception Everyone Talks About
with Micheal Schoenberger
Most businesses hit growth ceilings. You know the feeling—you’re working harder than ever, but the business stalls. Revenues plateau, your team burns out, and momentum fizzles. Break through, and you thrive. Fail to, and your business starts to slip backward.
🛎 In this episode Marc sits down with Mike Schoenberger, CEO of Sunco Communication, who has grown his business 20x in just 8 years by scaling with purpose. We dive into the proven processes that helped Sunco smash growth ceilings, avoid costly pitfalls, and transform into a scalable, values-driven company.
Need to brainstorm aspects of your business? Book your complimentary 30-minute brainstorm with Marc. Schedule a time that works for you at https://meetwith.marchaine.com
About Mike
Mike Schoenberger is the CEO and founder of Sunco Communication and Installation Ltd., a high-growth telecommunications company serving clients across Canada. Since embracing the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS) in 2017, Mike has led Sunco through consistent double-digit growth, two successful acquisitions, and a transformation into a scalable, values-driven organization.
Mike is a passionate advocate for EOS, not just as a business framework but as a philosophy for life. He’s an active member of the Entrepreneurs Organization (EO), mentors through IMYeg and the U of A Venture Mentoring Service, and serves on advisory boards including NAIT’s Mawji Centre and Nanostics DX.
Beyond the boardroom, Mike is a public speaker and storyteller who believes in the power of real human connection. He’s also a mountain enthusiast who finds balance and inspiration outdoors with his wife, Jackie
Connect with Mike
mikeschoenberger.com
www.linkedin.com/in/mike-schoenberger
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Thursday Nov 13, 2025
Effective Recruitment Doesn't Have to Be Hard with Kyle Patrick Smith
Thursday Nov 13, 2025
Thursday Nov 13, 2025
Effective Recruitment Doesn't Have to Be Hard
with Kyle Patrick Smith
Recruiting feels like rolling dice with your payroll—and more often than not, you come up snake eyes. You burn money on ads, ghost top talent, and end up hiring people who look great on paper but disappear faster than a donut in the breakroom.
🛎 In this episode, Marc sits down with Kyle Patrick Smith, CEO of HRKyle Services and veteran of 25 years in corporate HR, to talk about how recruiting doesn’t have to be hard—or expensive.
We’ll dive into how hiring has shifted from an HR function to a modern sales and marketing play, why community engagement is your new secret weapon, and how trust and empathy are now more valuable than the latest HR tech stack.
Need to brainstorm aspects of your business? Book your complimentary 30-minute brainstorm with Marc. Schedule a time that works for you at https://meetwith.marchaine.com
About Kyle
Over 25 years in Corporate HR and currently the founder and CEO of HRKyle Services, Your Guide Through the World of Work
Connect with Kyle
www.HRKyle.com
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Monday Nov 10, 2025
How to Stop Chasing Change and Start Leading It with Stephen Shapiro
Monday Nov 10, 2025
Monday Nov 10, 2025
How to Lead Through Uncertainty with Confidence
with Stephen Shapiro
Are you chasing change like a caffeinated squirrel during nut season?
Let’s face it—most business leaders are stuck in "reactive mode." A new trend? Pivot. A new competitor? Pivot. A new TikTok dance? You guessed it—pivot.
But what if all this flailing is what’s actually breaking your business?
In this episode, Innovation Instigator Stephen Shapiro joins me to expose the costly reality behind knee-jerk strategy: wasted resources, exhausted teams, and growth that looks more like a rollercoaster than a roadmap.
Tune in now and take back control of your business!
🎧 BONUS: Email Stephen for a free copy of his audiobook PIVOTAL.
About Stephen
Stephen Shapiro began his journey in innovation 25 years ago, founding and leading a 20,000-person innovation practice at Accenture.
Today, as the author of seven books, including his latest, PIVOTAL: Creating Stability in an Uncertain World, he continues to challenge the status quo and inspire creative breakthroughs.
His Personality Poker® card game has been played by over 250,000 people, helping organizations create high-performing innovation teams.
Stephen’s expertise has been featured on major television networks like CNBC, USA Network, and TLC, making his work as dynamic on-screen as it is on stage.
Offstage, he channels his passion for innovation into magic, blending creativity with the art of making the impossible possible.
With presentations in over 50 countries, a 2015 induction into the Speaker Hall of Fame, and his role as a Senior Research Fellow with The Conference Board, Stephen’s impact is as far-reaching as it is transformative.
Connect with Stephen
www.stephenshapiro.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/shapiroinnovates/
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Thursday Nov 06, 2025
Leading with Kindness: The New Strategy for Team Retention with Michael G. Neece
Thursday Nov 06, 2025
Thursday Nov 06, 2025
Your team isn’t underperforming—they’re quietly quitting
with Micheal G. Neece
No, not the TikTok trend. We’re talking about your brilliant people—the ones with ideas that could transform your business—but instead of speaking up, they’re silently checking out. Not because of money. Not because of workload. But because of a broken culture that’s invisible… until it’s expensive.
In this episode of Experience Leadership: The Small Business Podcast, Marc sits down with Michael G. Neece—culture strategist, keynote speaker, and kindness-in-leadership expert—to unpack how disengagement, silence, and fear of speaking up are bleeding value from your business.
We cover:
✅ The hidden signs of a fragile, failing culture
✅ How to create psychological safety without HR overhauls
✅ Why kindness is the new ROI
✅ The single question you should ask your team today (if you’re brave)
If you’ve ever felt like your team knows what’s wrong but no one’s talking about it… this episode is for you.
💡 Book Michael’s free Culture Clarity Call at www.ourfutureiskind.com
🔔 Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe to this podcast for weekly insights that help you work on your business—not just in it.
About Michael
Michael G. Neece is a keynote speaker, author, and culture strategist who teaches leaders how to use kindness as a catalyst for team trust, performance, and innovation. He’s spoken at over 750 events across corporate and educational spaces and is the author of In Kind: Consciously Craft a Meaningful Life and Career. As host of Our Future is Kind, he interviews leaders, futurists, and changemakers about how we create workplaces—and futures—that actually work for people.
Connect with Michael
www.ourfutureiskind.com
linkedin.com/in/yournextkeynotespeaker
Instagram: @michaelgneece Facebook: MichaelGNeeceAuthor
YouTube: @YourNextKeynoteSpeaker
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Monday Nov 03, 2025
The Real Reason Leaders Burn Out—and How to Stop It with Darci Ecker-Popiel
Monday Nov 03, 2025
Monday Nov 03, 2025
Emotional Contagion: What You Feel, Your Team Feels
with Darci Ecker-Popiel
Why Do Smart Leaders Fall Apart Under Pressure?
Ever felt like your brain short-circuits the moment the pressure’s on? You’re not alone—and you’re not broken. Most performance failures in business aren’t about bad strategy—they’re about overloaded nervous systems.
In this episodeof Experience Leadership, Marc is joined by Mental Performance Strategist Darci EPOPS (because her last name’s longer than a Monday morning), and together we dive into the invisible, expensive problem plaguing businesses: underperforming leaders who look fine on the outside but are fried on the inside.
Need to brainstorm aspects of your business? Book your complimentary 30-minute brainstorm with Marc. Schedule a time that works for you at https://meetwith.marchaine.com
About Darci
Darci “EPOPS” ( because my last name is L O N G!) is a Mental Performance Coach and science educator who helps leaders and business operators strengthen their mindset, regulate their nervous system, and build sustainable performance under pressure. With a unique background in neuroscience, coaching, and education, Darci “EPOPS” brings practical, grounded strategies that help clients move from overwhelmed to optimized.
Connect with Darci
epopsperformance.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/darci-ecker-popiel-93727686/
@epopsmentalperformance
E-PopsPerformance MentalGame
Darci (EPOPS PERFORMANCE) Ecker-Popiel
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Friday Oct 31, 2025
Next Gen Succession: Avoiding the Family Business Trap with Dr. Doug Gray
Friday Oct 31, 2025
Friday Oct 31, 2025
Family Business, Big Problems: Fix Your Succession Plan
with Dr. Doug Gray
Is your family business built to last — or are you gambling it away with unclear succession?
Too many family-run businesses wait until it’s too late to pass the baton. The result? Confusion. Power struggles. Stalled growth. And sometimes…a complete implosion of legacy.
In this episode, we dive deep into the high-stakes world of leadership transitions in family businesses with Doug Gray, PhD — CEO of Action Learning Associates and the guy behind the Next Gen Model. Doug shares practical steps to help family business owners avoid chaos and build continuity that outlives them.
From the $85 trillion generational wealth transfer to the roles daughters and matriarchs are playing in rewriting the script — we cover it all.
✅ Learn Doug’s 5-Step Succession Framework
✅ Avoid costly ownership fumbles and private equity nightmares
✅ Build your family legacy with clarity, not confusion
🧠 BONUS: Free seminars and tools to kickstart your journey:
👉 https://www.NextGenPeerGroups.com/the...
👉 https://www.NextGenPeerGroups.com/gifts
Need to brainstorm aspects of your business? Book your complimentary 30-minute brainstorm with Marc. Schedule a time that works for you at https://meetwith.marchaine.com
About Doug
Dr. Doug Gray Ph.D. specializes in leadership development, succession planning, and fostering family unity in enterprising families. With expertise in positive psychology, outcome-based consulting, and executive coaching, he provides assessments and strategic solutions to family-owned firms and leadership teams. Doug excels in conflict resolution, family meeting facilitation, and succession planning, aiming to establish collaborative relationships between generational leaders. He has extensive experience across various business sectors and holds the Professional Certified Coach designation from the International Coaching Federation.
Connect with Doug
www.Action-Learning.com
www.NextGenPeerGroups.com
www.AssessNextGen.com
/ doug-gray-phd
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Monday Oct 20, 2025
The Secret to Solving Business Chaos with Reuven Shelef
Monday Oct 20, 2025
Monday Oct 20, 2025
How to Solve Business Problems with Clarity
with Reuven Shelef
Feeling stuck in a mess of business problems that won’t quit? You might not have a leadership issue… you might have a tangled one.
🛎 In this episode of Marc Haine Live, we welcome Reuven Shelef, Founder and CEO of OUT OF THE BOX Consulting and the creator of the Untangling Complex Challenges™ methodology. Reuven helps leaders, executives, and business owners tackle messy, overwhelming challenges with a clear, practical 7-step process designed to turn chaos into clarity.
If you’ve ever faced:
• Interdepartmental friction
• Systems and processes that just don’t talk to each other
• Team dysfunction, poor decisions, and conflicting priorities
• Or just that sinking feeling of “Where do I even start?"
This episode is for you.
Need to brainstorm aspects of your business? Book your complimentary 30-minute brainstorm with Marc. Schedule a time that works for you at https://meetwith.marchaine.com.
About Reuven
Reuven Shelef, Founder and CEO of OUT OF THE BOX Consulting, is a strategic engineer with a coach’s heart, renowned for his groundbreaking Untangling Complex Challenges™ methodology.
With over three decades of experience in engineering, technology, business transformation, and human dynamics, he has helped Fortune 500 companies, startups, and executives solve intricate challenges, refine business processes, facilitate cross-functional collaboration, and coach leaders.
Reuven blends sharp logic with a deep understanding of human behaviour, creating transformative outcomes that go beyond business to personal growth.
Through his own life challenges, Reuven developed a methodology that combines tools from engineering, business, and personal development, empowering individuals and teams to break free from roadblocks and move forward with clarity and purpose.
His passion is helping people and organizations unlock their full potential, and his reputation as a trusted advisor is built on his meticulous approach, authentic leadership, and commitment to client success.
Reuven and OUT OF THE BOX Consulting also have 20 + years of experience with Salesforce.com, as a Certified Salesforce Consulting Partner.
Outside of work, Reuven enjoys travelling and exploring the world.
Connect with Reuven
Website: https://ReuvenShelef.com/
Book a complimentary strategy call with Reuven: https://MeetReuven.com/
LinkedIn: / reuvenshelef
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Friday Oct 17, 2025
Friday Oct 17, 2025
Scaling Made Simple: Shift Your Thinking, Grow Your Business
with Peter Kovacs
Are you leading your business, or is it leading you? If you’re stuck in the daily grind, drowning in decisions, and wondering why your business isn’t scaling the way it should—this episode is for you.
In this power-packed conversation, serial entrepreneur and executive coach Peter Kovacs reveals:
Why what got you here won’t get you there—and how to shift from hustler to CEO.
- The hidden mindset traps keeping you stuck (and costing you millions).
- How to reframe failure and break free from limiting beliefs.
The secret to optimizing for serendipity—creating unexpected business breakthroughs. - Why selling your business might be the worst day of your life—and how to prepare for real success.
- How to build a leadership style that scales your business—without burning out.
Need to brainstorm aspects of your business? Book your complimentary 30-minute brainstorm with Marc. Schedule a time that works for you at https://meetwith.marchaine.com
About Peter
Peter is a serial entrepreneur, exited founder, and executive coach who helps business owners and entrepreneurs become the leaders their companies need to scale and thrive.
Many business owners start with deep expertise in their field but find themselves overwhelmed by the demands of leadership, strategy, and growth. Peter helps them break free from working in the business so they can work on it—developing the mindset, systems, and leadership skills to scale effectively.
His own journey has shaped his work. Over 15 years, he founded and built four tech startups, culminating in a successful exit. But after being diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, he was forced to confront deeper questions about leadership, purpose, and impact. This led him to redefine success—not just in terms of business growth, but in creating a business that truly serves the owner’s vision and life.
Today, Peter brings decades of entrepreneurial experience and a global perspective, having grown up in Hungary, Algeria, and Canada before moving to California. He now coaches leaders, speaks internationally on entrepreneurship and leadership transformation, and helps business owners step into their next level of success with greater clarity and confidence. His insights have been shared on global stages, including Davos during the World Economic Forum, where he speaks on leadership, entrepreneurship, and navigating what’s next.
Connect with Peter
https://www.cqsavvy.com/
Linkedin.com/iamkovacs
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Thursday Oct 09, 2025
From Stuck to Scaling: The Momentum Mindset with Chip Higgins
Thursday Oct 09, 2025
Thursday Oct 09, 2025
The Real Reason New Companies Fail
with Chip Higgens
Half of all small businesses fail within five years. Half.
That’s not a statistic—that’s a wake-up call.
In this episode of Marc Haine Live, Marc sits down with Chip Higgins to tackle one of the biggest, most expensive problems facing small businesses today: the failure to generate and sustain momentum.
About Chip
For over four decades, Chip Higgins has dedicated his career to empowering small business owners to transform vision into reality. With a deep foundation in banking and economics—from his earliest days in Winston-Salem to executive leadership in three regional banks—Chip’s business banking strategies consistently earned each institution national “best brand” recognition by Greenwich Associates. Yet, his true focus has always been serving entrepreneurs directly, recognizing the vital role they play in shaping communities and driving economic progress.
Chip is the author of The Bizzics Way, a guidebook built on the profound idea that momentum isn’t just a business buzzword—it’s a universal law that shapes lasting success at every level. Through his Bizzics coaching practice, founded in 2019 and now further enriched by his book, Chip demystifies business and leadership for entrepreneurs, offering both practical tools and encouragement for the journey.
What fuels Chip’s work is his conviction that every business owner deserves access to resources, coaching, and a champion in their corner. He shows that with the right guidance and the power of momentum, even the boldest entrepreneurial dreams can make the world a better place—one energized step at a time.
Resources referenced in the interview
Bizzics on Demand: https://bizzics.kit.com/3827f3eef4
15 question Energy Check: www.bizzics.com/the-bizzics-way-resources.
Connect with Chip
www.chiphiggins.com
www.bizzics.com
/ chip-higgins-072a754
