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Each week we bring you, the small business owner, independent operator and entrepreneur, contentto help you work ON your business, not just IN your business.
Each week we bring you, the small business owner, independent operator and entrepreneur, contentto help you work ON your business, not just IN your business.
Episodes

Monday Dec 22, 2025
Regenerative Leadership: The New Path to Growth with Jordanna Eyre
Monday Dec 22, 2025
Monday Dec 22, 2025
The Spiral Way to Sustainable Growth
with Jordanna Eyre
Ever feel like scaling your business just means carrying more weight? More stress, more pressure, more late nights? What if the problem isn’t you — it’s the way you’ve been taught to grow?
In this episode of Esperience Leadership: The Small Business Podcast, we’re going beyond mindset with Jordanna Eyre, the Chief Sorceress of Life & Business and creator of the Spiral Leadership Methodology. Jordanna reveals why the traditional “hustle and grind” model of leadership is draining your time, energy, and impact — and how the Fibonacci sequence (yes, math!) can help you scale with more flow and less force.
You’ll learn how to shift from pressure-driven growth to regenerative leadership — where time expands, creativity flows, and your team thrives.
Need to brainstorm aspects of your business? Book your complimentary 30-minute brainstorm with Marc. Schedule a time that works for you at https://meetwith.marchaine.com
About Jordanna
Jordanna Eyre is the founder of Spiral Growth Systems and the creator of the Spiral Leadership Methodology — a transformational framework built on the Fibonacci sequence and the natural energetics of creation. Known as the Chief Sorceress of Life & Business, her methodology empowers visionary leaders to grow expansive movements without the weight — by aligning with the natural systems of creation, where time expands, energy regenerates, and authentic power becomes the fuel.
She has worked with leaders from LinkedIn, Microsoft, Cisco, and Stanford, and has supported over 4,500 changemakers across six continents. Her mission is to awaken a global movement of authentic power in leadership — one that transcends broken systems and reconnects us to our innate wisdom.
People come to Jordanna when they’re standing at the edge of the next paradigm — awake to the fact that breaking through old limits in leadership, business, and their own evolution requires an equal breakthrough in the limits of their own consciousness.
Connect with Jordanna
https://spiralgrowthsystems.com/
jordanna@spiralgrowthsystems.com
LI: https://Linkedin.com/jordannaeyre
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Thursday Nov 27, 2025
The New Rules of Visibility: Ranking in a Post-AI World with Carl Holden
Thursday Nov 27, 2025
Thursday Nov 27, 2025
AI Changed Everything: Is Your Business Still Searchable?
with Carl Holden
Are you invisible online and don’t even know it?
In a world where Google lies (yes, you heard that right) and AI is rewriting the rules of the internet, how do businesses stay visible, competitive—and relevant?
In this episode, Marc sits down with Carl Holden—CEO of RankBot and expert at the intersection of Search and AI—to uncover the new reality of search, SEO, and digital visibility. With over 13 years as a marketing agency owner and 250+ hours of AI training, Carl pulls back the curtain on what really works in this AI-infused era.
Need to brainstorm aspects of your business? Book your complimentary 30-minute brainstorm with Marc. Schedule a time that works for you at https://meetwith.marchaine.com
About Carl
Carl Holden is the CEO and co-founder of RankBot, an AI-powered SaaS specializing in off-page SEO, backlinks, keyword tracking, and website optimization, making SEO easy, accessible, for his clients, giving them a competitive edge in their industry.
With more than 200 hours of AI training from Wharton, IBM, Microsoft, and Google, Carl brings deep expertise in generative AI to the world of digital marketing. He’s also the co-owner of Zellus Marketing, an Amazon Top Author in Marketing and Web Analytics, and a contributor to Forbes and the Huntsville Business Journal. A former Toastmasters world semifinalist, Carl speaks on AI and marketing at events nationwide.
Connect with Carl
rankbot.ai
/ carlholdenmarketing
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Monday Nov 24, 2025
The One Mistake That Could Cripple Your Business with Shayne Kawalilak
Monday Nov 24, 2025
Monday Nov 24, 2025
Don’t Be the Weakest Link: How to Protect Your Business from Cyber Risk
with Shayne Kawalilak
Is your business one click away from chaos? Cybersecurity isn’t just a tech issue—it’s a business survival issue.
In this episode, cybersecurity educator and author Shayne Kawalilak joins Marc Haine to expose how everyday habits are making small businesses sitting ducks for cybercriminals. Discover the real risks, the sneaky mistakes that open the door to hackers, and the game-changing strategies your team can use to stay secure.
Need to brainstorm aspects of your business? Book your complimentary 30-minute brainstorm with Marc. Schedule a time that works for you at https://meetwith.marchaine.com
About Shayne
Shayne is a writer, mostly. He is currently happily married to his ex-wife and he lives in St. Albert, Alberta, Canada, where he is homeschooling the last of his nine children. He has been a professional geek for over twenty-five years and he tries to divide his days evenly between his passions; working with technology, writing anything and everything, spending as much time as humanly possible with his family.
Connect with Shayne
www.RedFlagIT.com
www.DontBeTheWeakestLink.com or www.DBTWL.com for short.
/ shayne-kawalilak
/ shaynekawalilak.author
https://x.com/AuthorShayne
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Thursday Nov 20, 2025
Thursday Nov 20, 2025
The Smart Way to Integrate Legal, Tax & Business Planning
with Chris Papin
Most small business owners think their LLC protects them. Spoiler alert — it probably doesn’t.
In this episode of Marc Haine Live, we’re tackling one of the most expensive mistakes entrepreneurs make: running their business with their legal, tax, and financial advisors working in silos. When your CPA, attorney, and financial planner don’t talk to each other, you pay the price — in taxes, lawsuits, and sleepless nights.
Need to brainstorm aspects of your business? Book your complimentary 30-minute brainstorm with Marc. Schedule a time that works for you at https://meetwith.marchaine.com
🔗 BONUS:
Chris is offering a free 30-minute Business & Family Protection Assessment at www.PapinSpeaks.com.
About Chris
Christopher C. Papin is a licensed Attorney and Certified Public Accountant who specializes in helping small business owners protect and grow their wealth through integrated legal, tax, and business planning. As the founder of Papin Law PLLC and Papin CPA PLLC in Edmond, Oklahoma, Chris offers the rare advantage of both legal and accounting expertise under one roof.
Connect with Chris
www.papinlaw.com
www.papincpa.com
www.papinspeaks.com
/ chrispapin
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Monday Nov 17, 2025
Monday Nov 17, 2025
Can you be the Exception Everyone Talks About
with Micheal Schoenberger
Most businesses hit growth ceilings. You know the feeling—you’re working harder than ever, but the business stalls. Revenues plateau, your team burns out, and momentum fizzles. Break through, and you thrive. Fail to, and your business starts to slip backward.
🛎 In this episode Marc sits down with Mike Schoenberger, CEO of Sunco Communication, who has grown his business 20x in just 8 years by scaling with purpose. We dive into the proven processes that helped Sunco smash growth ceilings, avoid costly pitfalls, and transform into a scalable, values-driven company.
Need to brainstorm aspects of your business? Book your complimentary 30-minute brainstorm with Marc. Schedule a time that works for you at https://meetwith.marchaine.com
About Mike
Mike Schoenberger is the CEO and founder of Sunco Communication and Installation Ltd., a high-growth telecommunications company serving clients across Canada. Since embracing the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS) in 2017, Mike has led Sunco through consistent double-digit growth, two successful acquisitions, and a transformation into a scalable, values-driven organization.
Mike is a passionate advocate for EOS, not just as a business framework but as a philosophy for life. He’s an active member of the Entrepreneurs Organization (EO), mentors through IMYeg and the U of A Venture Mentoring Service, and serves on advisory boards including NAIT’s Mawji Centre and Nanostics DX.
Beyond the boardroom, Mike is a public speaker and storyteller who believes in the power of real human connection. He’s also a mountain enthusiast who finds balance and inspiration outdoors with his wife, Jackie
Connect with Mike
mikeschoenberger.com
www.linkedin.com/in/mike-schoenberger
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Thursday Nov 13, 2025
Effective Recruitment Doesn't Have to Be Hard with Kyle Patrick Smith
Thursday Nov 13, 2025
Thursday Nov 13, 2025
Effective Recruitment Doesn't Have to Be Hard
with Kyle Patrick Smith
Recruiting feels like rolling dice with your payroll—and more often than not, you come up snake eyes. You burn money on ads, ghost top talent, and end up hiring people who look great on paper but disappear faster than a donut in the breakroom.
🛎 In this episode, Marc sits down with Kyle Patrick Smith, CEO of HRKyle Services and veteran of 25 years in corporate HR, to talk about how recruiting doesn’t have to be hard—or expensive.
We’ll dive into how hiring has shifted from an HR function to a modern sales and marketing play, why community engagement is your new secret weapon, and how trust and empathy are now more valuable than the latest HR tech stack.
Need to brainstorm aspects of your business? Book your complimentary 30-minute brainstorm with Marc. Schedule a time that works for you at https://meetwith.marchaine.com
About Kyle
Over 25 years in Corporate HR and currently the founder and CEO of HRKyle Services, Your Guide Through the World of Work
Connect with Kyle
www.HRKyle.com
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Monday Nov 10, 2025
How to Stop Chasing Change and Start Leading It with Stephen Shapiro
Monday Nov 10, 2025
Monday Nov 10, 2025
How to Lead Through Uncertainty with Confidence
with Stephen Shapiro
Are you chasing change like a caffeinated squirrel during nut season?
Let’s face it—most business leaders are stuck in "reactive mode." A new trend? Pivot. A new competitor? Pivot. A new TikTok dance? You guessed it—pivot.
But what if all this flailing is what’s actually breaking your business?
In this episode, Innovation Instigator Stephen Shapiro joins me to expose the costly reality behind knee-jerk strategy: wasted resources, exhausted teams, and growth that looks more like a rollercoaster than a roadmap.
Tune in now and take back control of your business!
🎧 BONUS: Email Stephen for a free copy of his audiobook PIVOTAL.
About Stephen
Stephen Shapiro began his journey in innovation 25 years ago, founding and leading a 20,000-person innovation practice at Accenture.
Today, as the author of seven books, including his latest, PIVOTAL: Creating Stability in an Uncertain World, he continues to challenge the status quo and inspire creative breakthroughs.
His Personality Poker® card game has been played by over 250,000 people, helping organizations create high-performing innovation teams.
Stephen’s expertise has been featured on major television networks like CNBC, USA Network, and TLC, making his work as dynamic on-screen as it is on stage.
Offstage, he channels his passion for innovation into magic, blending creativity with the art of making the impossible possible.
With presentations in over 50 countries, a 2015 induction into the Speaker Hall of Fame, and his role as a Senior Research Fellow with The Conference Board, Stephen’s impact is as far-reaching as it is transformative.
Connect with Stephen
www.stephenshapiro.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/shapiroinnovates/
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Thursday Nov 06, 2025
Leading with Kindness: The New Strategy for Team Retention with Michael G. Neece
Thursday Nov 06, 2025
Thursday Nov 06, 2025
Your team isn’t underperforming—they’re quietly quitting
with Micheal G. Neece
No, not the TikTok trend. We’re talking about your brilliant people—the ones with ideas that could transform your business—but instead of speaking up, they’re silently checking out. Not because of money. Not because of workload. But because of a broken culture that’s invisible… until it’s expensive.
In this episode of Experience Leadership: The Small Business Podcast, Marc sits down with Michael G. Neece—culture strategist, keynote speaker, and kindness-in-leadership expert—to unpack how disengagement, silence, and fear of speaking up are bleeding value from your business.
We cover:
✅ The hidden signs of a fragile, failing culture
✅ How to create psychological safety without HR overhauls
✅ Why kindness is the new ROI
✅ The single question you should ask your team today (if you’re brave)
If you’ve ever felt like your team knows what’s wrong but no one’s talking about it… this episode is for you.
💡 Book Michael’s free Culture Clarity Call at www.ourfutureiskind.com
🔔 Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe to this podcast for weekly insights that help you work on your business—not just in it.
About Michael
Michael G. Neece is a keynote speaker, author, and culture strategist who teaches leaders how to use kindness as a catalyst for team trust, performance, and innovation. He’s spoken at over 750 events across corporate and educational spaces and is the author of In Kind: Consciously Craft a Meaningful Life and Career. As host of Our Future is Kind, he interviews leaders, futurists, and changemakers about how we create workplaces—and futures—that actually work for people.
Connect with Michael
www.ourfutureiskind.com
linkedin.com/in/yournextkeynotespeaker
Instagram: @michaelgneece Facebook: MichaelGNeeceAuthor
YouTube: @YourNextKeynoteSpeaker
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Monday Nov 03, 2025
The Real Reason Leaders Burn Out—and How to Stop It with Darci Ecker-Popiel
Monday Nov 03, 2025
Monday Nov 03, 2025
Emotional Contagion: What You Feel, Your Team Feels
with Darci Ecker-Popiel
Why Do Smart Leaders Fall Apart Under Pressure?
Ever felt like your brain short-circuits the moment the pressure’s on? You’re not alone—and you’re not broken. Most performance failures in business aren’t about bad strategy—they’re about overloaded nervous systems.
In this episodeof Experience Leadership, Marc is joined by Mental Performance Strategist Darci EPOPS (because her last name’s longer than a Monday morning), and together we dive into the invisible, expensive problem plaguing businesses: underperforming leaders who look fine on the outside but are fried on the inside.
Need to brainstorm aspects of your business? Book your complimentary 30-minute brainstorm with Marc. Schedule a time that works for you at https://meetwith.marchaine.com
About Darci
Darci “EPOPS” ( because my last name is L O N G!) is a Mental Performance Coach and science educator who helps leaders and business operators strengthen their mindset, regulate their nervous system, and build sustainable performance under pressure. With a unique background in neuroscience, coaching, and education, Darci “EPOPS” brings practical, grounded strategies that help clients move from overwhelmed to optimized.
Connect with Darci
epopsperformance.com
https://www.linkedin.com/in/darci-ecker-popiel-93727686/
@epopsmentalperformance
E-PopsPerformance MentalGame
Darci (EPOPS PERFORMANCE) Ecker-Popiel
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Friday Oct 31, 2025
Next Gen Succession: Avoiding the Family Business Trap with Dr. Doug Gray
Friday Oct 31, 2025
Friday Oct 31, 2025
Family Business, Big Problems: Fix Your Succession Plan
with Dr. Doug Gray
Is your family business built to last — or are you gambling it away with unclear succession?
Too many family-run businesses wait until it’s too late to pass the baton. The result? Confusion. Power struggles. Stalled growth. And sometimes…a complete implosion of legacy.
In this episode, we dive deep into the high-stakes world of leadership transitions in family businesses with Doug Gray, PhD — CEO of Action Learning Associates and the guy behind the Next Gen Model. Doug shares practical steps to help family business owners avoid chaos and build continuity that outlives them.
From the $85 trillion generational wealth transfer to the roles daughters and matriarchs are playing in rewriting the script — we cover it all.
✅ Learn Doug’s 5-Step Succession Framework
✅ Avoid costly ownership fumbles and private equity nightmares
✅ Build your family legacy with clarity, not confusion
🧠 BONUS: Free seminars and tools to kickstart your journey:
👉 https://www.NextGenPeerGroups.com/the...
👉 https://www.NextGenPeerGroups.com/gifts
Need to brainstorm aspects of your business? Book your complimentary 30-minute brainstorm with Marc. Schedule a time that works for you at https://meetwith.marchaine.com
About Doug
Dr. Doug Gray Ph.D. specializes in leadership development, succession planning, and fostering family unity in enterprising families. With expertise in positive psychology, outcome-based consulting, and executive coaching, he provides assessments and strategic solutions to family-owned firms and leadership teams. Doug excels in conflict resolution, family meeting facilitation, and succession planning, aiming to establish collaborative relationships between generational leaders. He has extensive experience across various business sectors and holds the Professional Certified Coach designation from the International Coaching Federation.
Connect with Doug
www.Action-Learning.com
www.NextGenPeerGroups.com
www.AssessNextGen.com
/ doug-gray-phd
